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I'm going to start using illustrator soon and I was wondering about 2 things :

How do art boards fit into the responsive work flow of edge reflow?

and

Could that same work flow be used with the Photoshop art boards?

Added September 14, 2015 12:47 am

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Hi Chris,

No such thing as too many questions! We did find a great solution for Artboards – we will allow users to export asset maps / modules (more info to come). Layer Comps are still in question.

InDesign and Illustrator Support

We have support for the environments, but we have not activated the DOMs in the plugin – once we activate them, you can [enable / open / use] Lighting Storm in all 3 platforms – without downloading additional files. This is only a server option on our end.

The Real Issue for Us

Our problem is not the plugin, its adding equal content on our website to document usage for Illustrator and InDesign (keep in mind it took us 1 year to add the docs we have currently). To quote you, ”Indesign there is no clue as to how things will work…” – this is very true, we have to explain this – and InDesign has almost 3x the features to take advantage of!

Answer by admin
Answered On October 5, 2015 4:36 pm #

So the AI version works but there is no official support for it? Indesign there is no clue as to how things will work and there is no support? Regarding the comment you made about Art boards not being very efficient,I think you’ll be impressed with AI Art boards (wink). Sorry for so many questions, but I must get answers to questions that people maybe wondering and get the excitement going about the new Creative ”Storm” Cloud Suite.

Answer by Chris Loggins
Answered On October 5, 2015 2:01 am #

Hi Chris,

Lightning Storm should show for Photoshop, InDesign and Illustrator once installed. We did not want users to re-download the plugin – so we prepackaged it with all 3 platforms.

Take a look at the new Illustrator demo: //exportkit.com/lightning-storm-cc

Answer by admin
Answered On October 4, 2015 12:41 pm #

Why is The Creative ”Storm” Cloud plugin showing up on programs other than Photoshop? Is this because I manually installed it?

Answer by Chris Loggins
Answered On October 3, 2015 3:57 pm #

Hi Chris,

Yes we do have beta versions of both InDesign and Illustrator – we plan to release these shortly for user testing. The official release date is Christmas 2015.

Answer by admin
Answered On September 18, 2015 4:03 pm #

Now tell me, is there a working version of the indesign version, or at least a beta?

Answer by Chris Loggins
Answered On September 18, 2015 3:27 am #

One Last Note

Your original question was regarding Illustrator and Photoshop, our InDesign version is much different. InDesign offers more… more… more… of everything. With InDesign, pages allow for templates, server-side data mapping is much easier – there are simply many more features and options to take advantage of.

Our statements regarding Artboards and LayerComps are only in reference to Illustrator and Photoshop.

Illustrator and InDesign Updates: //exportkit.com/answers/when-will-lightning-storm-support-illustrator-and-indesign

Answer by admin
Answered On September 17, 2015 1:05 pm #

Hi,

Another great question, with a similar answer.

Short Answer

Layer Comps are actually Document Comps – they store a document state with reference to the current layers in the document at that time. The usefulness of this runs out very quickly.

Long Answer

We tested Layer Comps in the past many times, but Layer Comps only give basic functionality. Our previous Export Kit versions (eg. 124, 125) had basic CSS features. Layer Comps were perfect for this to create simple CSS such as button states. Once we updated to v126, our CSS platform became much more sophisticated – and Layer Comps could no longer handle complex CSS.

Layer Comps Example

If you create a PSD and your only CSS requirement is HOVER STATE, then Layer Comps work well. You can easily create an additional state for ALL layers.

Export Kit does not limit your CSS-abilities.  You can create any complex CSS query with Export Kit, which is almost impossible to manage with Layer Comps.

Think Efficient Not Proficient

Export Kit is designed to save you time in all aspects. Layer Comps, Artboards and a few other features do not actually save you anything (clicks, export time, etc.). There are some amazing features of Photoshop such as Smart Objects that are extremely useful for both design and conversion – but not all features are like this.

If it will save you time, we use it – if not – you have to request it, otherwise we don’t see the need.

To all users, if you want support for Layer Comps or Artboards – let us know!

Answer by admin
Answered On September 15, 2015 1:11 pm #

How can I use layer comps for a better export then? And is this supported for the current version?

Answer by Chris Loggins
Answered On September 15, 2015 1:32 am #

Hi Chris,

This is a great question! We have tested Artboard and the outcome was not what we expected.

Short Answer

Artboards do not provide any benefit in both design or processing when creating PSDs for Export Kit. But we are still testing to see where we can utilize them. A much better solution is to use [Windows > Arrange] and Tile your PSD designs, see the long answer for why.

Long Answer

Artboards are scoped, not referenced. Unlike Smart Objects, the Artboard layers are scoped directly in the same PSD context. We hoped Artboards would reference the layers and create less layers to process at run-time similar to Smart Objects, but this is not the case.

Artboards Example – If you have 4 Artboards with 100 layers each = 400 layers, then you have 400 layers in your PSD.
Smart Object Example – If you have a PSD with 400 layers, and you convert 300 layers to a single Smart Object, your PSD now contains 101 layers

Remember with Export Kit, the less layers you have, the faster the processing. The problem we face is using Artboards does not allow you to have less layers – infact you end up with the same number of layers to process = 0% time saved.

Broken Design Flow

The other problem we face is the Design flow of Photoshop. Over the years designers have become accustom to using Folders to show various designs styles in a single PSD – this is for various reasons, speed, users never took the time to learn about Layer Comps, etc. Folders became the norm. This means that you can have a single HEADER folder and show/hide various CONTENT folder in a single PSD scope. To do this with Artboards, you may need to replicate the same object across vairous Artboards = more layer elements = longer export.

Why use [Windows > Arrange]

The reason we recommend you arrange various PSD designs on your screen (similar to Artboards) is because they are INDIVIDUAL PSDs, so each will have it own layer set, rather than 1 PSD with 1000 layers.

Answer by admin
Answered On September 14, 2015 3:37 pm #
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